I don't know when this was posted but when there are trespassers the trains can't proceed. The cops are called. An investigation is launched and we're all left sitting idle and getting home late.
I tried to find the article but in 2007 (?) the family of a Brampton teen, don't know if they did or not, intended to file suit against GO Transit for not having fences along kilometres of track as they believe it was the lack of fences (more like a lack of common sense) that contributed to their son's death who was struck and killed by a train.
If anyone recalls the story, help me out.
I would think that's the reason why those operating the train don't proceed at full speed. That ... and a certain level of ethics.
Is this the incident you're referring to? http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2012/04/11/go_train_death_friends_of_mississauga_teen_killed_on_tracks_say_others_are_in_danger.html
These people likely don't go meandering down the middle of a road on foot without paying attention. Not quite sure why they think that doing so on a train track is at all different.
There's no need to have roadways fenced off, there shouldn't be a need to have railway tracks fenced off either. People just need to stop being stupid.
That said, GO doesn't halt all rail service when a train sees a few people trespassing by the tracks. They might report them to the rail dispatcher, and the dispatcher might warn other trains about that area, but they won't stop all service until the police arrive for an investigation, if any. If someone trespassing gets hit or killed, that's when the delays happen.
The evidence is that fences reduce trespassing on the tracks. That's why I support fencing off tracks.
As for the whole "we don't put fences along roads" argument... there's fences along the 401 (100km/hr speed limit) - so along the tracks (155km/hr speed limit) seems logical.
@5:55 anon- yes they have held/delayed trains when they. Spot somebody . @11:31 Darwins natural selection results in 2 hour delays....and when Darwin wins GO gets blamed...they never learn.
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To the Anonymous who said GO doesn't halt rail service when people trespasser - It depends on circumstances. If a crew reports that a trespasser(s) is on any track to the RTC(Rail Traffic Controller) or GO Operations then the protocol is to such down the tracks. However If the crew reports that the trespassers is in the right off way but off the tracks they'll just send enforcement. Most of the trespassers that we see are usually off the tracks when we pass by them (likely having crossed just before we arrived or waiting for us to pass to do so). Crews use discretion when calling in trespassers. 9 out of 10 crews will only call in a trespasser who is lingering in a spot where they can get hit by a train, we don't bother with calling it in 90% of the time because if we did the standby channel would be jammed with the RTC calling every train to warn them about trespassers it would make it extermly difficult to accomplish all our other duties. So in all rarely are the tracks shut down because of just a trespasser, but it does happen. And of course fatalities take forever.
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Is that the dumbass that caused the delays a week or so ago? If so, that person needs to be taken out of the gene pool.
I don't know when this was posted but when there are trespassers the trains can't proceed. The cops are called. An investigation is launched and we're all left sitting idle and getting home late.
Yup. Know that. End up dealing with the trapped feeling. I hate that trapped feeling.
I wrote that for the noobs who don't understand why this is a big deal. I know you know!
Who cares about trespassers. Just proceed at full speed and if the trepassers dont move then let Darwin's natural selection deal with them.
Sure and then there's the lawsuit.
Don't think it doesn't happen?
I tried to find the article but in 2007 (?) the family of a Brampton teen, don't know if they did or not, intended to file suit against GO Transit for not having fences along kilometres of track as they believe it was the lack of fences (more like a lack of common sense) that contributed to their son's death who was struck and killed by a train.
If anyone recalls the story, help me out.
I would think that's the reason why those operating the train don't proceed at full speed. That ... and a certain level of ethics.
Is this the incident you're referring to?
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2012/04/11/go_train_death_friends_of_mississauga_teen_killed_on_tracks_say_others_are_in_danger.html
No, this was different but that story also points to how common sense should prevail.
A fence can be climbed, compromised, tampered with and dismantled.
People need to obey the law. Full stop.
These people likely don't go meandering down the middle of a road on foot without paying attention. Not quite sure why they think that doing so on a train track is at all different.
There's no need to have roadways fenced off, there shouldn't be a need to have railway tracks fenced off either. People just need to stop being stupid.
That said, GO doesn't halt all rail service when a train sees a few people trespassing by the tracks. They might report them to the rail dispatcher, and the dispatcher might warn other trains about that area, but they won't stop all service until the police arrive for an investigation, if any. If someone trespassing gets hit or killed, that's when the delays happen.
The evidence is that fences reduce trespassing on the tracks. That's why I support fencing off tracks.
As for the whole "we don't put fences along roads" argument... there's fences along the 401 (100km/hr speed limit) - so along the tracks (155km/hr speed limit) seems logical.
@5:55 anon- yes they have held/delayed trains when they. Spot somebody . @11:31 Darwins natural selection results in 2 hour delays....and when Darwin wins GO gets blamed...they never learn.
To the Anonymous who said GO doesn't halt rail service when people trespasser - It depends on circumstances. If a crew reports that a trespasser(s) is on any track to the RTC(Rail Traffic Controller) or GO Operations then the protocol is to such down the tracks. However If the crew reports that the trespassers is in the right off way but off the tracks they'll just send enforcement. Most of the trespassers that we see are usually off the tracks when we pass by them (likely having crossed just before we arrived or waiting for us to pass to do so). Crews use discretion when calling in trespassers. 9 out of 10 crews will only call in a trespasser who is lingering in a spot where they can get hit by a train, we don't bother with calling it in 90% of the time because if we did the standby channel would be jammed with the RTC calling every train to warn them about trespassers it would make it extermly difficult to accomplish all our other duties. So in all rarely are the tracks shut down because of just a trespasser, but it does happen. And of course fatalities take forever.
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