Why is the bus being blamed for this? It looks to me like the van tried to beat the bus around the corner. I guess buses now need the wide-right-turn stickers on the back like trucks have.
from the angle it looks like the bus was turning in from the middle lane rather than making a wide turn, if he was in the right hand lane ready to make a right turn his back end wouldn't be out the in the other lane would it? I dunno.. I'd have to have been there to make that call.
@ AllanVS woa sorry I never stated that the car driver is always right, I was just stating an opinion, which clearly I stated I would have had to be there to make that call. Not an accident scene expert here, no need to get snarky Allan.
The buss driver will not be in the clear. When a large vehicle driver is making a wide left or right turn it's THEIR responsibility to make sure they can make the turn safely and the way is clear. Either driver may or may not get charged but the bus driver will most likely be in doo-do with GO management.
I used to live in Brampton. Although we moved closer to my husband'd office (from 66 km to 15 km), our insurance went up because of the notoriety of Brampton drivers.
I remember one summer the right turn lane off Queen St. (the turn we took to get home) was blocked by red pilons for about a week for some work. Over the course of the week we stayed in the right lane (not the blocked turn lane), making the turn when we got to the lights, while many drivers actually went between the pilons to drive to the lights and then scoot back to the left to go straight on Queen, honking at us for turning right! I actually called the police one night as it was just an accident waiting to happen. The next day the pilons were much closer together.
My point? I would not be surprised if the car tried to get ahead of the bus.
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Why is the bus being blamed for this? It looks to me like the van tried to beat the bus around the corner. I guess buses now need the wide-right-turn stickers on the back like trucks have.
I,too, also feel the bus driver is in the clear here.
I'm betting the van driver's defence is the sticker on the back of the bus only means "I have to yield if the bus is going left and not right".
*facepalm*
Folks, buses of all lengths require a lot of space to turn hence they make use up 2 lanes to complete the turn.
Judging by that picture, that car driver would be held at fault.
The driver should have seen the car coming. Clearly a bad day...
Actually the driver of the bus messed up here. He cut off the car. But hey,, believe what ya want
from the angle it looks like the bus was turning in from the middle lane rather than making a wide turn, if he was in the right hand lane ready to make a right turn his back end wouldn't be out the in the other lane would it? I dunno.. I'd have to have been there to make that call.
Based on the still picture alone, it not possible to say who is at fault.
If the bus driver had put his signal on before reaching the intersection and the car was behind the bus at that time, the car is at fault.
If it is a case of the car being beside the bus prior to the bus putting on the turn signal, it is the car at fault.
I'm anon 9:09. I type that wrong, in my second scenario, the bus would be at fault.
@JulieBean - there is only one lane + left turn lane.
Bus is clearly in the far left of the single lane of traffic.
http://goo.gl/maps/43FNb
This is where it happened.
Now, tell me again, how the bus is at fault, for swinging wide to the left to make a smooth turn?
It's clear that it's the vans fault, but of course, the car driver is always right, and therefore the bus driver MUST be at fault.
According to sources, the bus was waiting to turn left and had the signal on for a left turn but then decided to turn right for some reason.
Bus driver was totally at fault and charges are pending.
TIME TO CALL GO FOR THE REAL STORY. IM ON IT
@ AllanVS woa sorry I never stated that the car driver is always right, I was just stating an opinion, which clearly I stated I would have had to be there to make that call. Not an accident scene expert here, no need to get snarky Allan.
The buss driver will not be in the clear. When a large vehicle driver is making a wide left or right turn it's THEIR responsibility to make sure they can make the turn safely and the way is clear. Either driver may or may not get charged but the bus driver will most likely be in doo-do with GO management.
I used to live in Brampton. Although we moved closer to my husband'd office (from 66 km to 15 km), our insurance went up because of the notoriety of Brampton drivers.
I remember one summer the right turn lane off Queen St. (the turn we took to get home) was blocked by red pilons for about a week for some work. Over the course of the week we stayed in the right lane (not the blocked turn lane), making the turn when we got to the lights, while many drivers actually went between the pilons to drive to the lights and then scoot back to the left to go straight on Queen, honking at us for turning right! I actually called the police one night as it was just an accident waiting to happen. The next day the pilons were much closer together.
My point? I would not be surprised if the car tried to get ahead of the bus.
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