I'm not cool with the (presumably) sweaty sock-feet on the seat, but otherwise unless this was a busy train I don't have a problem with him lying down to take a nap. It does look hilarious, though. The eye mask is the pièce de résistance.
I fully respect other's opinions, but I disagree with the tenor of some of what was expressed. C.J., the gentleman did not actually pay for one seat or for any seat, in fact. (We assume) he paid his fare, to travel between point A to point B, with no guarantee of a seat, and also with no limitation of having, for example, a full quad to himself, if that happens to be available.
If some passenger puts an (unsoiled) coat on a second seat adjacent to hers, when the train is half empty (and she is ready to relinquish that seat with a smile if anyone needs it), I see no 'social norms' problem with it. Nor is there a bylaw violation. It is a bit of "live, and let live"--with no obvious harm to anyone.
Yes, technically this gentleman's conduct violates By-law 2, in that he was lying down and was putting feet on the seats. But how big of a problem is it, really, if he was not soiling anything, and had clean socks. I also can't tell if one's pant's seat had not been in contact with a dirty downtown bench, which is likely to be more problematic, but not officially prohibited... Common sense is key, but people will vary in defining it.
True, when one boards a train they are not entitled to a seat because sometimes it is packed and they are unavailable. However, sometimes seats are unavailable due to this behaviour and they aren't always given up with a smile, they are either ignored or rudely given up. And anything on a seat that isn't an ass is a by-law violation that can be fined. And while his socks appear to be clean they have invisible bacteria all over them (I am sure) that are in fact soiling the seat.
So, let's say I'm stopped at a red light, and there are no cars around, not even a blade of grass is stirring - I'm alone as far as the eye can wander. Does this mean I can go through the intersection?
Just because the seats are available and you paid only to board doesn't grant you your every desire and wish. You sit in a seat. You don't spread out. You keep prattling on about common sense, how about just common courtesy???
Wow, you folks are hardcore. I'm with Anonymous here: you purchase a ride, not a seat. If you're alone in the coach then who cares if you decide to spread out, so long as you're not soiling the seat? As I mention above, this particular guy seems to have been cycling so I'm not in favour of his sweaty socks being all over a seat, but otherwise unless someone else needs to sit down then I don't see the harm. Hell, even GO's own rules recognize the difference between rush hour (when no bikes are allowed because space is at a premium) and off hours (when bikes are welcome because nobody is going to care).
I kinda see both sides...but you have to be vigilant in being ready to move, (and willing!!), and if your 'sleeping hardcore', then that will be hard.
CJ - survey??? haven't done one in a while, (or text exchange - he asked hopefully). I know this isn't the preferred medium for you but for sh*ts and giggles?
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I know it's an illusion but to me it looks like he unzipped too.
What an arsehole.
I'm not cool with the (presumably) sweaty sock-feet on the seat, but otherwise unless this was a busy train I don't have a problem with him lying down to take a nap. It does look hilarious, though. The eye mask is the pièce de résistance.
HE PAID FOR ONE SEAT.
How many asses have been where his head is? Ewww
So much douche in one picture. Wowza!
I fully respect other's opinions, but I disagree with the tenor of some of what was expressed. C.J., the gentleman did not actually pay for one seat or for any seat, in fact. (We assume) he paid his fare, to travel between point A to point B, with no guarantee of a seat, and also with no limitation of having, for example, a full quad to himself, if that happens to be available.
If some passenger puts an (unsoiled) coat on a second seat adjacent to hers, when the train is half empty (and she is ready to relinquish that seat with a smile if anyone needs it), I see no 'social norms' problem with it. Nor is there a bylaw violation. It is a bit of "live, and let live"--with no obvious harm to anyone.
Yes, technically this gentleman's conduct violates By-law 2, in that he was lying down and was putting feet on the seats. But how big of a problem is it, really, if he was not soiling anything, and had clean socks. I also can't tell if one's pant's seat had not been in contact with a dirty downtown bench, which is likely to be more problematic, but not officially prohibited... Common sense is key, but people will vary in defining it.
Fine. Let's all lie down on the train, everywhere, when we want and how we want. No problem at all. Oh, bring a pillow tho, them seats are nasty.
True, when one boards a train they are not entitled to a seat because sometimes it is packed and they are unavailable. However, sometimes seats are unavailable due to this behaviour and they aren't always given up with a smile, they are either ignored or rudely given up. And anything on a seat that isn't an ass is a by-law violation that can be fined. And while his socks appear to be clean they have invisible bacteria all over them (I am sure) that are in fact soiling the seat.
Re: October 18, 2017 at 10:55 PM from Anonymous
So, let's say I'm stopped at a red light, and there are no cars around, not even a blade of grass is stirring - I'm alone as far as the eye can wander. Does this mean I can go through the intersection?
Just because the seats are available and you paid only to board doesn't grant you your every desire and wish. You sit in a seat. You don't spread out. You keep prattling on about common sense, how about just common courtesy???
Wow, you folks are hardcore. I'm with Anonymous here: you purchase a ride, not a seat. If you're alone in the coach then who cares if you decide to spread out, so long as you're not soiling the seat? As I mention above, this particular guy seems to have been cycling so I'm not in favour of his sweaty socks being all over a seat, but otherwise unless someone else needs to sit down then I don't see the harm. Hell, even GO's own rules recognize the difference between rush hour (when no bikes are allowed because space is at a premium) and off hours (when bikes are welcome because nobody is going to care).
I kinda see both sides...but you have to be vigilant in being ready to move, (and willing!!), and if your 'sleeping hardcore', then that will be hard.
CJ - survey??? haven't done one in a while, (or text exchange - he asked hopefully). I know this isn't the preferred medium for you but for sh*ts and giggles?
Cheers
Preach Joe.
I've heard it said that "Being in public is like being in an elevator with 30 other people that's stuck between floors"
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